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Path: coranto.ucs.mun.ca!gnoel
From: [e-mail] (George Noel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem problems/prices (was AT Surfer Package)
Date: 13 Mar 1996 03:06:10 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
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Summary: Basing my opinions on
Keywords: Type of modems

In article <4i4c1o$[e-mail]>,
Byron Montgomerie <[e-mail]> wrote:
>George Noel ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In article <4hv86o$[e-mail]>,
>: Byron Montgomerie <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>: >: That's my point, sometimes, depending on what modem you buy, you cannot
>: >: even stay connected for 1 hour let alone getting uploading and
>: >: downloading to work properly.
>: >
>: >Don't know what you buy then, I have never had a problem, probably just your
>: >Karma. :)  I think most of the modem problems you have had have something to do
>
>: I wasn't talking about myself, I was talking about problems with other
>: modem users around town.  Any problems I have had connecting to other
>: modems not of my brand name or speed or settings, I have always found a
>: way to get around it.. due to THEIR modem not being "standard".
>
>I was pointing out that you used a 2400 baud modem for many years on your bbs,
>this is pre v.34/v32 times and my guess that is what you are basing your
>negative impressions of modems on.  There are a few modems brands yes that have

As a matter of fact I am not.. like I said, that was 5 - 6 years ago and
isn't in the league of modems I am talking about now as it (The Aprotek
2400 baud Mini-Modem) was C64 specific relying on the inbuilt RS-232
routines of the C64 which were KNOWN to be flaky.. (as said my problems
were fixed by adjusting the timers via software which was more of a
mis-setting on the author of my BBS's software part then anything) some
never even thought the C64 could DO 2400 baud back then because of this.  I
have long since stopped using it as I had sold it once I got a true RS-232
port and RS-232 modem.  I regret selling it now as I could have kept it
for my second C64 - it truelly was the best C64 specific modem out there.

>only v.fast or use proprietary compression schemes and if you want to avoid
>them all you have to do is ask before you buy.

For those in the know yes, but a lot of people only see the cheaper price
and see 14.4k and/or 28.8K and think everything is fine but don't read
the small print.  I am basing my opinions on people's trouble connecting
with other computers around town and the internet due to their modem
having compression and error correction and/or flow control controlled by
the modem's or terminal program's software rather then the hardware when
connecting to other hardware controlled modems or name brands trimming th
edges on the specifics to achieve a lower price or modems using older
chips which require a newer upgrade to connect to certain other types of
modems that are standard.. ie: take a look at a Zoom 14.4k modem and a
USR 14.4k modem (for example).. people have been taking Zoom's back in
droves (even though it is cheaper) and getting a USR modem.

>: >with the fact you use a c64 for your bbs.  Not to harp on it or anything, just
>: When is it going to get through to you that Hard Drives and Modems do not
>: care what computer they are running on?  I have an RS-232 port on all
>
>Forget it George, every time I mention your BBS you have a fit.

Maybe if you could point out something which was actually the C64s fault
and you knew what you were talking about, then I wouldn't.  You also said
you weren't going to harp on the fact I still run a BBS off a C64 which
you have been.. its as if this is something to be ashamed of... I don't
like you giving the impression that it is.

>BM

-=*George*=-